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This wierd-ass archaic deponent verb in one of those ur-metaphorical lexemes that gave 1950's structuralists and comparative religionists cheap thrills.  Literally, ordior means to lay the warp on the loom, to begin to weave.  By extension, to begin.  Is this the word from which we deriver order, ordinary, ordain?

 

Pictured on the right: a reconstructed roman loom from this web page



ordĭor </l>, orsus, 4

    II. In gen., to begin, commence, set about, undertake (class.; syn.: incipio, incoho, infit); constr. with acc., de, inf., or absol.

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From:ypocras
Date:March 6th, 2006 07:11 am (UTC)

hardy har hardior

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Sounds too good to be true, but if you'd like, I'll whip off an essay about how Archaic Latin became the metalocus of a denied conflict between a feminine weaving culture and the patriarchal phallic spear-wielders.
Or not.
Old French already has ordonner in the 11th century, so I'm guessing the simpler answer is that a first-conjugation verb was developed from a noun, as so often happened: ordinare from ordo, ordinis. I would like to know where ordinarius fits in with these, especially since our use of ordinary is almost the opposite of the medieval use. Ordinaries had extraordinary powers, at least in the church.

Back to poking archdeacons.
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From:piratehead
Date:March 6th, 2006 07:24 am (UTC)

Re: hardy har hardior

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I'm sure you're quite right about ordo>ordinare, but livejournal is where I come to purge my intellectual bad habits such as spurious etymology and facile analogy. Caveat lector.
I would have made a good 1950s anthropologist.
My talent is raw, and your goose is cooked!
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From:ypocras
Date:March 6th, 2006 07:28 am (UTC)

Re: hardy har hardior

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Thank you for not taking me up on that essay offer. The only theory I know how to work with is that the past is dead, which makes it easier to cut up and eat. Thus also with Latin; anthropologize away. I'm sure you can fit Latin deponent verbs somewhere into Polynesian avuncular gift-culture.
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From:piratehead
Date:March 6th, 2006 09:29 pm (UTC)

Re: hardy har hardior

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Would you like to be a co-mod on latin_wotd?
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From:ypocras
Date:March 7th, 2006 05:31 am (UTC)

morty morior or moror

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Sure! What does it involve? Occasional posting of my words filched from Perseus Project?
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From:piratehead
Date:March 7th, 2006 07:34 am (UTC)

Re: morty morior or moror

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Pretty much.
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